Luthers diesbezügliche Ansichten beendeten den Gegensatz von Staat und Kirche, der das Mittelalter geprägt hatte. Die Fürsten wurden bis 1918 zu uneingeschränkten Beherrschern der neuen Staatskirchen.http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther#An_den_christlichen_Adel_deutscher_Nation_von_des_christlichen_Standes_BesserungEr unterschied den „weltlichen“ vom „geistlichen“ Bereich; zwar begegne der Christ in beiden Gottes Willen, aber in verschiedener Gestalt. Die biblischen Gebote gälten nur für die Gläubigen; wer sie direkt auf die Politik übertrage, gefährde das Evangelium, das die Gewissen befreien und nicht durch neue Gesetze versklaven solle (siehe dazu Zwei-Reiche-Lehre).http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther#Haltung_zum_Deutschen_Bauernkrieg(*)The article of Grillo appearing on his blog confirms what I said years ago as pertains the Massacre of Duisburg. I don't care how much Masons or Jesuits Grillo has behind him. This is another aspect of the matter because – at the opposite - you can see well AMERICAN heretic anti-Jesuits preachers who have a well clear global clergy-fascist policy. They speak with the same double tongue of doc Natlačen and bishop Rožman.So what Grillo says in his last article is 200% right. Even if he the same cannot understand the true reasons of what he is exposing. So why all that MAFIA and CRIMINALITY exported by ROMAN CATHOLIC ITALY in Europe (& rest of the WESTERN world)?Because Italy has a fundamental function in the EU: to realize the COUNTER REFORMATION agenda.But how could it be possible, being Protestantism practically erased from Europe, a part some Indian reserves of Protestants who don't know that they are Catholics but still believes in the existence of well long ago disintegrated religious status?Be you an Atheist, a Buddhist, a Muslim, a Roman Catholic, a Jew, an Orthodox, an Alien or a Reptilian, all that values also for you.Because we still are living in a PROTESTANT, REFORMED, LUTHERAN state of reality.SEPARATION between "church" and "state" is THE revolution of MARTIN LUTHER.Our 'common' societies regulated by the (ok, formal, apparent as much you want) separation between "church" and "state" IS a PROTESTANT, REFORMED, LUTHERAN status quo.The autonomy of the individual soul, mind, brain, spirit, what do you want, from the church of ROME, materialized in such "modern, republican, etc." separation, pertains and comes from the well buried and feared theological question of the SALVATION.The church of ROME must bound SALVATION to the intermediary (the MAFIOSO) between divinity and believers on earth, the s.c. "pope of Rome".If you want the SALVATION, whatever it could mean for you this term, you must PAY the bribe to the MAFIOSO OF ROME, named "pope of Rome" and "head" of the entire Christianity.The most kitsch version of it were the "indulgencies". The most modern version is the IDEOLOGICAL support from every kind of ideology to the Jesuit LONGA MANUS in the world, which, semplified in its essential core, consists in the bipolar dialectic antagonism of the JEWISH theory and of the CAPITALIST theory about the world events. In more popular terms it is the MATERIAL silence of the usual ideological universe about the involvement of Rome in the NWO.The key for all that is the CRIMINALITY and the social dictatorship of it, the various MAFIAS. The old way was to transform CRIMINALITY the same in a DOGMA OF THE STATE, and you had the usual Fascist, Nazi, Communist dictatorships. Then it arrived the time for another criminal ideology transformed in a state dogma, the DEMOCRATIC ideology where the individuals in the society are destroyed by ROME using the MAJORITY as an Inquisitorial Hammer and where the CRIMINALITY is putted AGAINST the laws of the state.So the sprading of criminality, immorality, Mafias, perversions, delinquency, etc. has the precise goal to destroy LEGALITY, in other words to destroy the LEGAL certainity which still is keeping SEPARATE the church of ROME from the state.The goal, helped with an artificial, commanded and engineered global recession, is leading to what I named "the AFRICANIZATION of the WESTERN world". Just give a look to those African countries where the STATE and his LAWS doesn't exist, the society is totally suffucated by starvation and CRIMINALITY, and the only source of hopes comes from....... the MISSIONARIES OF THE CHURCH OF ROME.It is not so strange to consider the same church of ROME as the true instigator of the PEDOPHILIA SCANDAL. It is not only due to the fact that YOU DON'T VOTE AT THE ELECTIONS PRIESTS, POPES, JESUITS AND BISHOPS, and hence Rome doesn't care of your opinion.It is due to the fact that as the TRADITIONAL POLITICAL WORLD OF REPRESENTATION OF THE POPULAR SOVEREIGNITY IS DESTROYED, the still present request of representation coming from the society and from the individuals will be WELCOMED DIRECTLY BY THE CHURCH OF ROME and NO MORE IN THE PARLIAMENTS, PARTIES, ETC., or in THE STRUCTURES OF THAT OLD, DESTROYED WORLD OF LUTHERAN SEPARATION BETWEEN ETC.In fact if the right wing and left wing must be destroyed in the process of destruction of the LUTHERAN SEPARATION between "church" and "state", their BIPOLAR STRUCTURE MUST BE RE-CREATED INSIDE THE CHURCH OF ROME.So you astoundingly see the appearing of the BIPOLAR (=double tongue) structure inside the church of ROME: from a side you have the "revolutionary" priests who criticize a "church which became the tool of the power", from the other you have priests like monsignor Babini who "blames the Jews for being the occult instigator of the pedophilia scandal".The THEOLOGY OF THE LIBERATION is a perfect COUNTER REFORMATION product because with the excuse to LIBERATE the world from hunger etc. as correct intepretation of Jesus' Gospel, they simply LIBERATE their SOCIAL BATTLE FIELD from the OBSTACLE of the LUTHERAN SEPARATION etc.Priests, Jesuits, Bishops, with the uniforms of the "MISSIONARIES" who directly are LEADING the political instances from society are the ASSASSINS of any AUTONOMOUS action and thought of the humans, be it SOCIAL as well INDIVIDUAL one. Hence it is natural that this THEOLOGICAL AND POLITICAL "LIBERATION" (ASSASSINATION) chose the most poor and desperate lands to start its bastard rising to the power, because the sufference of AFRICA, South America etc. is only DISGUISE, only a MARKETING STRATEGY EXPLOITED in order to introduce again in the world AFTER 500 YEARS THE GOOD, OLD MIDDLE AGE, THE ONE BEFORE AND AGAINST LUTHER.There's only one aspect of the LUTHERAN SEPARATION that is useful to the church of ROME: when she voluntarily interprets the SEPARATION between the "church" and the "state" to be a SEPARATION and ENMITY of the Christian principle from the state and the society. It is in fact not strange that the MAFIOSI in Italy are STRONG ROMAN CATHOLIC MILITANTS.......This is confirmed perfectly by the burial of the CRIMINAL MAFIOSO Enrico de Pedis in the Sant'Apollinare Roman Catholic church between "saints" and "popes". As I told that in an old message of mine, I DON'T PROTEST AGAINST THAT BURIAL, AT THE OPPOSITE, I AGREE WITH BISHOPS AND JESUITS, THAT CRIMINAL MAFIOSO ENRICO DE PEDIS HAS HIS RIGHT GRAVE AMONG POPES OF ROME.So Grillo & assistants have neither the minimum least idea of what is boiling behind the catastrophe they are exposing and surely they continue the spiritual trade with those bloody, false, double “revolutionary” priests the same who “are accusing this government for Nazi laws against the immigrates or to be friend with Mafiosi”, priests who, like don Ciotti, I consider the SPIES of the Holy See Mafia in the society. Grillo & assistants are brainwashed, let 'em to their destiny.To conclude this short/long excursus which analyzes very briefly the relations:
church of Rome >>> criminality & recession,criminality & recession >>> destruction of Lutheran separation between etc.,destruction of Lutheran separation between etc. >>> Counter Reformation,Counter Reformation >>> Jesuit order,Jesuit order >>> Jesuits the true controllers of church of Rome and the worldchurch of Rome >>> criminality & recession,etc. etc..........an appeal to the rest of Europe:expell Italy (= territorial and political extension of the Holy See) from the continent.
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http://www.beppegrillo.it/en/2010/09/italy_corrupted_europe_infecte.html
Italy corrupted, Europe infected
Beppe Grillo at the European Parliament(12:50)
Italy corrupted, Europe infected. The ‘Bel Paese’ for decades has been a land for the cultivation of the mafia virus, a protected area, a WWF oasis of delinquency. The mafias have two incomes: from the State by means of the contracts and the funding from Europe, billions of euro every year that escape every control, and from the most classic of activities, from drugs that come in tons through the port of Gioia Tauro, to prostitution, to rubbish, to arms trafficking. The mafias have grown to be strong and powerful to the indifference of the European Community and its asphyxiated Parliament directed by the European Central Bank and with benevolence on the part of the Italian State. “The Boot” has been starting to feel tight for them for some time. They are like a hermit grab that is always looking for a bigger shell.The Duisburg massacre happened almost unobserved. The European gangrene however, can no longer be hidden. The French weekly L'Express has devoted its front cover and its main article to the spread of the mafias in European countries. The cover is the most upsetting since the Der Spiegel front cover about the Red Brigades (a plate of spaghetti with a P38). The article in L'Express starts off with these words: “The Mafia is not touched by the crisis. Its turnover goes up and down between 120 and 150 billion euro a year, from 5 % to 7 % of Italy’s GDP. The three main criminal organisations of the peninsular, the Sicilian mafia, the 'Ndrangheta and the Camorra have never had such power. If they invest from 40% to 50% of their wealth in traditional activities like drugs, arms and the payment of salaries to “affiliates”, they reinvest the rest of their bounty in the legal economy. And well beyond the borders of Italy ….” What follows are maps showing criminal geography, taken from the book: "Mafia Export" by Francesco Forgione, with the names of families in France, in Germany, in Spain and in Portugal. Everywhere there’s an epidemic of clans and families with all the most famous names: from the Piromalli, to the Mazzarella, to the Santapaola.If the source of the contagion is not circumscribed, the phenomenon can do nothing but develop at a rhythm of 40 to 50 billion euro a year in mafia investments in Europe. What would it take to transform our continent into a Euromafia? No multinational has the financial clout of the mafias. I have been twice to the European Parliament to warn the Sleeping Beauties of Brussels. The first time to ask that European funding be no longer sent to Italy (about 9 billion euro a year). The funding is mostly managed by organised crime. The second time I went to warn them that the mafia was colonising Europe. After two years there’s been no response from the EU and we can’t expect it to come from Italy.In the Mafia ‘Bel Paese’ the people convicted of mafia crimes are in parliament, Camorra and 'Ndrangheta friendships are credentials to get government positions. The President of the Council is proud of having had a Cosa Nostra multiple murderer in his home and he calls him a hero. Casini has to thank Cuffaro for his voters and Schifani is the contact person of the PDminusL.In order to be saved, Europe has to appoint an extraordinary commissioner for Italy, if necessary a liquidator, otherwise the next European president will be elected at Corleone or at Torre Annunziata.
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The Massacre of Duisburg - my old posts in The Unhived Mind forum in Summer 2007 - see the thread:
Mafia killings shock Germany - a thread opened by true-lilly
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(*) And now it is clear that with the usual dictatorships of XX and XXI centuries Rome applied the same principle of Luther's separation against Luther the same. Is the "order of the world separated from the one of Christ"? Well, no problem! With its Fascist/STALINIST dictators Rome allowed to herself - in the name of the Luther's not intervention in the worldly reign via Jesus's Gospel the same!!! - , any kind of cruelty and horror..... Jesuit's bastards as usual. It is clear why Tito after WWII erased away 12,000 assassin collaborationists, but the church of Rome survived..... But at least Tito expelled the Jesuit order from the capital of Slovenia, and this is a weak but significant sign.... Anti-Communism of Rome and the one of certain heretic preachers like Eric John Phelps smells too much of a sort of anti-Lutheran Roman theological revenge.... Just when Tito was paying back those bastard Jesuits with their currency the same..... see:Wednesday, July 7, 2010The church of Rome playing with fire: archbishop of Ljubljana Anton Stres rehabilitating collaborationism with Nazi and Fascist aggressionhttp://adrgegenreformationheute.blogspot.com/2010/07/church-of-rome-playing-with-fire.html-----------------------(As I have no time, no resources, no money, no support at disposition, it is clear that what I wrote is affected by many errors and uncorrectness. I am not a prostitute lay journalist of this dirty Vatican 'tollerant' regime called 'democracy'. I have not the 51% of the Bank of America supporting my writings. I don't control the Casinò of Ostenda and neither Citroen and Peugeot as the General Superior did at least in 1958. So corrections and additions could appear in the future)DUISBURG MASSACRE, A SIGN OF THE JESUITS’ FINAL PLAN OF CONQUER AND DESTRUCTION OF PROTESTANT and/or NOT CATHOLIC GERMANY?Think what you want, but now I have no more a doubt about the real, hidden nature of the Duisburg Massacre of 15th August: among other purposes (N.W.O.), it was a Counter Reformation Massacre, an occult satanic ritual sacrifice performed by the satanic inner core of the Catholic church and by the Jesuits, using the controlled and inspired war and revenges among the families of South Italy criminal organizations.Duisburg was an important centre for the Reform. Today the reasons of the strong CATHOLIC immigration in it are real clear and is no more possible to hide them behind the criminal idiocies – for example - of the Marxism. A person told me that in Duisburg the community of people from Calabria (from where the killers came) is of 60.000 people. This is a Catholic ARMY to first) conquer, and to second) destroy the Reform in Deutschland. Six (= 6) people killed during the satanic celebration of Diana/Iside/Hel/virgin Mary day is not a casualty.And the Protestants, Lutherans, Anti-catholics of Deutschland what are they doing? Didn’t see they the high symbolism of a murder happened JUST in the day when a satanic goddess - today disguised as ‘virgin Mary’ - is worshipped? The worshipping of virgin Mary was or not on the target of the Reform???!!?!?!! Are they sleeping or they will awake and realize about the Counter Reformation War against them that every day is becoming less ‘low intensity war’ and more ‘high intensity war’? But if they don’t realize that the same Adolph Hitler was a Catholic crusader they will never understand what is happening. The Counter Reformation punishment of Deutschland of the XX century was only the beginning, just wait and see the next years, when the 500th anniversary of Luther’s Thesis will occur.(............)...................
